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[ASN] Re: What are the proper norms for Common Channels?

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From: Jim Fournier <jim@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:01:04 -0800
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Gary,    (01)

Well said below.  I'm in NYC and there is an opportunity to secure funding
for Identity Commons to keep Fen coding a first example protocol this year.
If we can get that several different independent efforts will adopt it for
their tools/front ends and we may have the initial conditions we are all
looking for.  I will post more info as it develops here.
-j    (02)

On 11/17/03 3:20 AM, "Gary Alexander" <g.r.alexander@open.ac.uk> wrote:    (03)

> Hi Andreas,
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, November 15, 2003, at 11:40  PM,
> asn-discuss@planetwork.blueoxen.net wrote:
> 
>> I'm actually not quite sure what the right endeavor is for this group.
>> "Augmented Social Networks" is the topic.  But why?  Why exactly do we
>> need them?
> 
> As I see it, the way through our problems is to build connections and
> collaborations on a basis of trust and common purpose. There may be
> some global sense of common purpose, encapsulated by phrases such as
> the health of the natural environment and the well-being of all of
> humanity, and below that a great diversity of local purposes common to
> smaller groups.
> 
> Your website is a way of creating such links and collaborations. The
> problem with it is that there are too many interesting and worthy
> possible links. Should I be going to your site regularly, reading
> through a list which could grow enormously long in the hope that
> something really significant for me will come up? And there are so many
> other possible places to do the same.
> 
> The ASN idea is to create a network of trust and within it have trusted
> brokers who can find and promote relevant connections. This may range
> from people who can connect others with relevant health or business
> expertise to a food co-operative, whose organisers connect people who
> produce local organic food with those who want to consume it. Within a
> network of trust it becomes possible to distinguish information from
> people who share your interests strongly from those who share them
> weakly or those who are preying on you (spam, etc.).
> 
> To do this, you need to know who people are, and so identity becomes
> the key issue. So the basis of the ASN is to create mechanisms for
> persistent identity outside of the commercial sphere (Microsoft
> Passport, the Liberty Alliance), and to use this to build connections
> and brokerages.
> 
> (My talk at the PlanetWork conference, (a Word document at
> http://sustainability.open.ac.uk/gary/papers/EnvPlanCit.doc ) and my
> more recent paper
> (http://sustainability.open.ac.uk/gary/papers/onlinetools.doc ) both
> try to spell this out more fully.)
> 
> Does that help? Does it make sense to you?
> 
> Regards,
> Gary
> 
> 
> ================================
> Dr. Gary Alexander
> Director, PlaNet project
> Senior Lecturer in Telematics
> Faculty of Technology
> The Open University
> 
> See my new book "eGaia, Growing a peaceful, sustainable Earth through
> communications" on my website.
> Personal Web site: http://sustainability.open.ac.uk/gary
> PlaNet: http://planetarycitizen.open.ac.uk
> 
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