| cdent |
that better? (01)
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2003-06-06 00:04:41 |
| burtonator |
so not it is just a greeting? (02)
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2003-06-06 00:16:59 |
| cdent |
for just the incoming person, yes (03)
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2003-06-06 00:27:13 |
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| ovdavis |
testaroonie (04)
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2003-06-06 06:42:52 |
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| mmell |
good morning (05)
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2003-06-06 08:46:57 |
| eekim |
Hey Mike. Where are you hiding? (06)
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2003-06-06 08:47:06 |
| mmell |
I'm upstairs now (07)
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2003-06-06 08:58:17 |
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I need someone to edit a powerpoint file for the 10:15 presentation.
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2003-06-06 08:58:17 |
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who can help?
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2003-06-06 08:58:17 |
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also need to scan a few new images. there is a scanner somewhere.
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2003-06-06 08:58:17 |
| mikel |
calling my broker... (08)
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2003-06-06 09:55:15 |
| mmell |
hi all (09)
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2003-06-06 09:58:00 |
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eugene, we're getting a file server set up. will give you info soon
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2003-06-06 09:58:23 |
| mani |
Hi all This is Manuel. I'm working on the mapping in Groxis downstairs. Looking forward to the File Server. Lovin Life (010)
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2003-06-06 09:59:38 |
| mmell |
Hi Mani (011)
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2003-06-06 09:59:49 |
| mani |
Sup (012)
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2003-06-06 09:59:57 |
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Who are you mmel
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2003-06-06 10:00:07 |
| mikel |
hi all (013)
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2003-06-06 10:00:11 |
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how do we eat information?
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2003-06-06 10:00:33 |
| mmell |
I wear a red fire hat. sitting in the Presenters room. also collaboratory webmaster (014)
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2003-06-06 10:00:58 |
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| cdent |
plogger, still with us? (015)
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2003-06-06 11:30:53 |
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yes, you certainly did
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2003-06-06 11:31:03 |
| mmell |
wiki rss has been updated. looking into why it is not automatically re-indexing (016)
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2003-06-06 11:51:11 |
| eekim |
Hey Mike, you there? (017)
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2003-06-06 12:04:39 |
| sociate |
Jerry Michalski here. anyone in Hawken's presentation? (018)
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2003-06-06 12:06:09 |
| mmell |
I'm headed to the east room. the presenter can't get internet access. help! (019)
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2003-06-06 12:09:09 |
| eekim |
I'm in the Assembler Team room. I'll head over to the East Room with an ethernet cable. (020)
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2003-06-06 12:11:21 |
| Jay |
I am in the blog presentation in the East room (021)
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2003-06-06 12:12:29 |
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we have Internet here
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2003-06-06 12:12:50 |
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just saw EE walk past
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2003-06-06 12:13:01 |
| eekim |
Hi Jay. Mike was in the West room. We ought to go by the actual room names. :-) (022)
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2003-06-06 12:15:57 |
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How's the blog talk going?
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2003-06-06 12:16:40 |
| zephoria |
unfortunately, the presentation is focused primarily on functionality. (023)
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2003-06-06 12:17:30 |
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with some bits on usages (and an explanation of what a blog is)
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2003-06-06 12:18:07 |
| cdent |
that is unfortunate, seems to happen alot (024)
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2003-06-06 12:18:08 |
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eugene: I've just updated the log parsing a bit more to have a link back to the collaboratory site, otherwise it is a bit of deadend
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2003-06-06 12:18:33 |
| sociate |
Hawken's talk was a pure Grokker pitch. Pretty disappointing (025)
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2003-06-06 12:21:52 |
| cdent |
Grokker? (026)
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2003-06-06 12:22:04 |
| Jay |
I am blogging about the blogging presentation on my blog: icite.net/blog/ (027)
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2003-06-06 12:22:11 |
| sociate |
Groxis' visual search tool: www.groxis.com (028)
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2003-06-06 12:22:22 |
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nice recursivity, jay
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2003-06-06 12:22:28 |
| eekim |
I heard a similar thing from someone about Hawken's talk. But I also just talked to someone who was rather impressed with the tool, and is planning on buying a license. (029)
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2003-06-06 12:36:08 |
| sociate |
yep. nice sales (030)
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2003-06-06 12:36:26 |
| eekim |
Hey Jerry, did Hawken at least talk about some of the underlying concepts behind Grokker? (031)
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2003-06-06 12:37:28 |
| sociate |
a little about what motivated its development, a little about its uses, especially future uses such as sharing stored searches (032)
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2003-06-06 12:38:33 |
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not much big picture, though, and nothing outside Grokker
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2003-06-06 12:38:47 |
| eekim |
That's disappointing. (033)
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2003-06-06 12:39:12 |
| sociate |
aye (034)
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2003-06-06 12:39:50 |
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i was
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2003-06-06 12:39:51 |
| cdent |
Jay, are you trackbacking your stuff to Topic Exchange? I just read one of your entries, good stuff. (035)
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2003-06-06 12:40:29 |
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I looked at grokker back in the fall when working on Helium and it was, well, pretty.
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2003-06-06 12:40:59 |
| sociate |
pretty... the suspense is killin' me (036)
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2003-06-06 12:42:19 |
| Jay |
no, don't have automatic trackback (037)
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2003-06-06 12:42:42 |
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so I have to manually enter things
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2003-06-06 12:42:47 |
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which I will do at the break
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2003-06-06 12:42:52 |
| cdent |
cool, thanks for writing this stuff up, it's nice to get it: I'm out here in Indiana, watching (038)
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2003-06-06 12:43:12 |
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sociate: that's it: it was pretty, and that was all I got from it
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2003-06-06 12:43:38 |
| sociate |
oh, IT was pretty. I thought you said you were pretty... impressed or disappointed; thanks (039)
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2003-06-06 12:44:09 |
| cdent |
help /set (040)
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2003-06-06 12:46:26 |
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set autoaway off
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2003-06-06 12:46:37 |
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sorry, busy being a newbie
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2003-06-06 12:46:48 |
| eekim |
The Groxis folks are going to be doing a map of the content posted on the collaboratory site. So we'll be able to see it in action. (041)
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2003-06-06 12:51:33 |
| sociate |
where's the best stuff being posted? I tried following some of the links on the conf home page, with little result. and I blogged a little about the conference (I do have RSS), but I'm not showing up. do I have to do something explicit? (042)
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2003-06-06 12:52:37 |
| eekim |
Did you send a TrackBack ping to TopicExchange regarding your blog? (043)
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2003-06-06 12:53:14 |
| sociate |
nope; don't know how (044)
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2003-06-06 12:53:30 |
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use Blogger Pro
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2003-06-06 12:53:36 |
| eekim |
What blog software do you use? (045)
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2003-06-06 12:53:38 |
| sociate |
:) (046)
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2003-06-06 12:53:43 |
| eekim |
Beat me to it. :-) (047)
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2003-06-06 12:53:46 |
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Okay, not sure if Blogger Pro supports TrackBack pings. But you can do it manually. Check out the instructions at: http://collaboratory.planetwork.net/blogs.html -- basically, just follow the URL and fill out the form.
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2003-06-06 12:54:31 |
| sociate |
merci! (048)
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2003-06-06 12:54:43 |
| eekim |
No problem. (049)
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2003-06-06 12:54:54 |
| sociate |
for URL, do I put my RSS URL, or just my blog? (050)
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2003-06-06 12:55:57 |
| eekim |
Good question. Let me check. (051)
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2003-06-06 12:56:21 |
| sociate |
sorry; thanks (052)
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2003-06-06 12:56:28 |
| eekim |
It's the URL of your blog entry. (053)
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2003-06-06 12:57:15 |
| sociate |
just the permalink for that entry? do I have to repeat it every time? (054)
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2003-06-06 12:57:40 |
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seems to have worked
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2003-06-06 12:58:28 |
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doesn't show up under Recent Blog Entries on the Collaboratory page, though
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2003-06-06 13:00:57 |
| Jay |
just posted part 2 on the blogging presentation, which just ended (055)
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2003-06-06 13:01:18 |
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back later
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2003-06-06 13:04:22 |
| eekim |
I'm not sure how frequently Recent Blog Entries is updated. It's at least once an hour, and I think it's much more frequent than that. So check again soon. (056)
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2003-06-06 13:14:58 |
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Cool, Jay -- I'll check it out when I get the chance.
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2003-06-06 13:15:09 |
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| Jay |
anyone else blogging the ASN presentation? (057)
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2003-06-06 14:34:49 |
| sociate_ |
i'm here, haven't blogged anything yet (058)
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2003-06-06 14:35:04 |
| eekim |
There are a couple of people who are taking notes on it for the Wiki. (059)
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2003-06-06 14:36:33 |
| sociate_ |
(in the ASN talk) why the focus on identity? is it the top priority? (060)
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2003-06-06 14:45:24 |
| cdent |
i've heard people say that's the top priority, but I don't really get why (061)
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2003-06-06 14:45:53 |
| sociate_ |
what does stronger identity software offer that we aren't doing now w/o it, by watching who says what over time on mailing lists, etc? (062)
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2003-06-06 14:46:25 |
| eekim |
(In the Assembler Room): Someone should ask that question at the ASN presentation. I'm curious myself. (063)
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2003-06-06 14:46:30 |
| sociate_ |
hey, thanks for the shared curiosity! (064)
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2003-06-06 14:46:43 |
| eekim |
That's a really good question. Have you read the whitepaper? (065)
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2003-06-06 14:47:01 |
| sociate_ |
haven't made my way through the whole thing (066)
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2003-06-06 14:47:14 |
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need the cliff notes
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2003-06-06 14:47:26 |
| eekim |
My impression from the paper is that their focus is a reaction to Passport and Liberty. (067)
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2003-06-06 14:47:37 |
| sociate_ |
wish he were't reading from the paper, but adding to it instead (068)
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2003-06-06 14:47:39 |
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yeah
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2003-06-06 14:47:45 |
| cdent |
I think the whole identity/authority/authorization this is a bit of straw man (069)
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2003-06-06 14:49:05 |
| eekim |
Whoops; got logged off. (070)
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2003-06-06 14:49:06 |
| cdent |
s/this/thing (071)
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2003-06-06 14:49:12 |
| eekim |
Did my last comment (re: reaction to Liberty/Passport) get through? (072)
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2003-06-06 14:49:22 |
| cdent |
yes (073)
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2003-06-06 14:49:27 |
| sociate_ |
i'm a "member" of eight or nine explicit online networks, whose intent is to make it easier for me to meet people, yet I don't really like any of them, and I turn to my friends for leads (074)
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2003-06-06 14:49:29 |
| cdent |
exactly (075)
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2003-06-06 14:49:38 |
| eekim |
I agree. (076)
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2003-06-06 14:49:41 |
| cdent |
those social networking tools turn into trading card systems (077)
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2003-06-06 14:49:47 |
| eekim |
I find the auto-discovery scenario a bit sketchy. (078)
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2003-06-06 14:49:51 |
| sociate_ |
TEN, Ryze, Friendly Favors, Alpha Cubed, Huminity, GroupMine, LinkedIn... (079)
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2003-06-06 14:50:07 |
| cdent |
I have 29,500 people in my friendster network. what does that mean? (080)
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2003-06-06 14:50:08 |
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nothing really
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2003-06-06 14:50:12 |
| sociate_ |
marc canter just clapped loudly -- alone :) (081)
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2003-06-06 14:50:37 |
| eekim |
*laugh* (082)
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2003-06-06 14:50:47 |
| cdent |
what was he responding to? (083)
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2003-06-06 14:50:50 |
| eekim |
Chris, how often do you check Friendster? (084)
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2003-06-06 14:51:00 |
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And how do you use it when you check it?
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2003-06-06 14:51:16 |
| cdent |
I think since communication is the way we build trust and identity pre net, that should be the way we do now as well (085)
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2003-06-06 14:51:16 |
| sociate_ |
i like GlobeAlive, sort of. (086)
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2003-06-06 14:51:18 |
| cdent |
i check it when they send me mail (087)
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2003-06-06 14:51:24 |
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which is generally once a week
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2003-06-06 14:51:29 |
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or when I get a new friend
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2003-06-06 14:51:32 |
| eekim |
Have you ever located a "friend" through it? (088)
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2003-06-06 14:52:10 |
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I know people who network pretty actively on Ryze.
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2003-06-06 14:52:20 |
| cdent |
you mean a new friend? none. (089)
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2003-06-06 14:52:27 |
| sociate_ |
i get lots of ryze interaction, too, but not much of it is useful (090)
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2003-06-06 14:52:35 |
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it's the most active
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2003-06-06 14:52:42 |
| cdent |
ryze has been slightly more useful in that is has confirmed some casual acquaintances as people I might be able to go to for more later (091)
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2003-06-06 14:52:57 |
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but I already pretty much knew that before the confirmation
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2003-06-06 14:53:08 |
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you might argue that the confirmation is part of what people are trying to automate, but that seems a bit soulless
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2003-06-06 14:53:32 |
| sociate_ |
ryze is interesting to browse because (some) people use it to say lots about themselves (092)
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2003-06-06 14:53:35 |
| cdent |
yes, they certainly do (093)
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2003-06-06 14:53:52 |
| eekim |
And it's not automated either. _You're_ still reviewing it; it's just a different medium to do so. (094)
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2003-06-06 14:54:03 |
| Jay |
are you meeting more people through communities than through blogs and people who link to you or whom you link to? (095)
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2003-06-06 14:54:04 |
| cdent |
what I meant was that it is not automated yet, but in some eyes may have the potential to be (096)
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2003-06-06 14:54:37 |
| eekim |
I don't use those communities. But I've met many, many, many interesting people through communities, online and off. (097)
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2003-06-06 14:54:56 |
| cdent |
I meet far more people through blogs and email than communities (098)
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2003-06-06 14:54:56 |
| sociate_ |
yup. me, too (099)
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2003-06-06 14:55:23 |
| eekim |
I met Chris via a mailing list. I don't think I would have been proactive about trying to get to know him if I read his profile on Ryze. (0100)
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2003-06-06 14:55:32 |
| cdent |
my profile on ryze is extremely boring :) (0101)
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2003-06-06 14:55:49 |
| sociate_ |
my favorite power tools are mailing lists, blogs and wikis (0102)
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2003-06-06 14:55:54 |
| cdent |
you're in good company then (0103)
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2003-06-06 14:56:06 |
| eekim |
Absolutely. (0104)
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2003-06-06 14:56:10 |
| Jay |
me too (0105)
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2003-06-06 14:56:16 |
| eekim |
Self-selecting group here, I see. :-) (0106)
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2003-06-06 14:56:31 |
| cdent |
is the way in which they are sort of loosely tied, or is it something else? (0107)
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2003-06-06 14:56:43 |
| sociate_ |
what do you mean? (0108)
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2003-06-06 14:57:05 |
| Jay |
with blogs, you are kind of uncontained and people can just find you without having to join a community (0109)
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2003-06-06 14:57:40 |
| cdent |
well, mailing lists, blogs and wikis all have low barriers to discovery and use. I can go to someone's blog without them needing to invite me, same with many lists and wikis. I can participate without authorization or authentication (0110)
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2003-06-06 14:57:45 |
|
nice, jay, I think we just said the same thing...
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2003-06-06 14:58:01 |
| Jay |
yes (0111)
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2003-06-06 14:58:05 |
| sociate_ |
chris posts for me (0112)
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2003-06-06 14:58:12 |
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one of my favorite traits of wikis is how their complete openness -- any visitor can edit any page -- is an unspoken message of trust.
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2003-06-06 14:58:57 |
| eekim |
I think it's about motivation. I don't seek out people; I seek out ideas and dialog. When you find shared interest, you naturally want to develop relationships with those people. (0113)
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2003-06-06 14:59:07 |
| Jay |
that is a good point (0114)
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2003-06-06 14:59:18 |
| cdent |
exactly it is trust created out of an expectation of trust, rather than an enforcement (0115)
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2003-06-06 14:59:20 |
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the presence of rules encourages breakage
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2003-06-06 14:59:26 |
| sociate_ |
aye (0116)
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2003-06-06 14:59:49 |
| Jay |
too tight rules supress connections (0117)
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2003-06-06 14:59:51 |
| cdent |
that's one of my major concerns with highly engineered identity systems (0118)
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2003-06-06 14:59:56 |
| Jay |
but rules that allow people freedom to do fun and spontaneous things are not bad (0119)
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2003-06-06 15:00:07 |
| cdent |
it moves the onus of responsibility from the individual and community onto tech (0120)
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2003-06-06 15:00:16 |
| sociate_ |
it makes all the soft stuff too explicit (0121)
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2003-06-06 15:00:35 |
| cdent |
i think you can make a distinctaion between supporting structure and constraining rules (0122)
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2003-06-06 15:00:46 |
|
it's a hard disctinction to define, but it is there
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2003-06-06 15:00:54 |
| sociate_ |
that was my problem with SixDegrees, back in the day... (0123)
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2003-06-06 15:00:55 |
| Jay |
ok, that is a good way to put it (0124)
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2003-06-06 15:00:57 |
|
does this chat get archived anywhere?
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2003-06-06 15:01:27 |
| eekim |
Jerry, are you still at the ASN session? I'd be interested in hearing what Ken, Steve, and Jan have to say about what's being said here. (0125)
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2003-06-06 15:01:31 |
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Yes.
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2003-06-06 15:01:36 |
| sociate_ |
I would never have put my favorite people in it, for fear that strangers would use it as a way to introduce themselves to them. my introduction/recommendation has value (at least to me) :) (0126)
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2003-06-06 15:01:38 |
|
yes, i'm in
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2003-06-06 15:01:50 |
| eekim |
http://planetwork.blueoxen.net/irclog/ (0127)
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2003-06-06 15:01:53 |
| cdent |
yes here: http://planetwork.blueoxen.net/irclog/ (0128)
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2003-06-06 15:01:54 |
| sociate_ |
Jordan(?) is still reading from the ASN paper, instead of paraphrasing (0129)
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2003-06-06 15:02:09 |
|
nobody else has spoken
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2003-06-06 15:02:14 |
| eekim |
I'll be patient. :-) The conversation here in the Assembler Team room is actually very interesting. It's not easy carrying on two conversations at once. :-) (0130)
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2003-06-06 15:03:03 |
| sociate_ |
i'm interested. what's going on there? (0131)
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2003-06-06 15:03:25 |
| eekim |
It's a scenario building exercise. knOwhere team has set up butcher paper for people to do a 50 year timeline -- 1978-2028. (0132)
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2003-06-06 15:03:57 |
|
People are trying to identify tipping points.
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2003-06-06 15:04:07 |
| sociate_ |
an example? (0133)
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2003-06-06 15:04:28 |
|
now Jan's starting
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2003-06-06 15:04:35 |
| eekim |
People are standing up and proposing scenarios for the timeline. (0134)
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2003-06-06 15:04:50 |
|
For example...
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2003-06-06 15:04:52 |
| sociate_ |
(to speak on the panel) (0135)
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2003-06-06 15:04:56 |
| cdent |
I think "making soft stuff explicit" (http://planetwork.blueoxen.net/irclog/irclog-20030606.html#nid0121) is a theme to remember from all this (0136)
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2003-06-06 15:04:59 |
| eekim |
Someone just proposed that in 2028, the surgeon general announced that people are having four times more sex than they did in 2003. (0137)
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2003-06-06 15:05:18 |
|
Those scenarios get posted on the butcher paper.
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2003-06-06 15:05:27 |
| cdent |
that is, there is a danger to it that it overcomplicates things and places it into models that can't avoid being too rigid (0138)
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2003-06-06 15:05:33 |
| sociate_ |
4X? :) (0139)
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2003-06-06 15:05:37 |
| eekim |
They're not just future scenarios; they're also past turning points as well. (0140)
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2003-06-06 15:05:42 |
|
You think that's lowballing it?
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2003-06-06 15:05:52 |
|
:-)
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2003-06-06 15:05:54 |
| sociate_ |
heh (0141)
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2003-06-06 15:06:08 |
|
gotta head home. have some statistics to prove
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2003-06-06 15:06:22 |
| eekim |
*laugh* (0142)
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2003-06-06 15:06:31 |
|
Chris, you should post that URL in that AugmentedSocialNetwork Wiki page.
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2003-06-06 15:07:18 |
| sociate_ |
i like the mix of tools here (0143)
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2003-06-06 15:07:29 |
|
quite organic
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2003-06-06 15:07:32 |
| Jay |
I am posting a little note about this chat in my blog (0144)
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2003-06-06 15:07:35 |
| sociate_ |
not easy, mind you, but flexible and expressive (0145)
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2003-06-06 15:07:42 |
| eekim |
Cool! (0146)
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2003-06-06 15:07:44 |
| Jay |
starting from #74 from sociate_ about belonging to 9-10 communities (0147)
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2003-06-06 15:07:51 |
| eekim |
Definitely somewhat chaotic. (0148)
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2003-06-06 15:07:52 |
| sociate_ |
IRC/RSS/blog/URL/wiki/etc (0149)
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2003-06-06 15:07:54 |
| cdent |
okay, I'll do that and get back to doing the dishes (0150)
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2003-06-06 15:08:07 |
| eekim |
Boy, my connection is flaky. (0151)
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2003-06-06 15:11:44 |
| sociate |
mine, too. i just went down, then got back in (0152)
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2003-06-06 15:12:01 |
| cdent |
eug, I can't decide on a good page to make the link. there are asn related pages, but no collector (0153)
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2003-06-06 15:12:05 |
| eekim |
Re: tools -- spread the word at the conference! (0154)
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2003-06-06 15:12:07 |
| cdent |
except for the ASNpedia but it was going to be a glossary I think (0155)
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2003-06-06 15:12:36 |
| eekim |
I'd recommend either: http://collaboratory.planetwork.net/wiki/AugmentedSocialNetworks ... (0156)
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2003-06-06 15:12:55 |
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... or blogging the conversation, and putting a link to your blog on that Wiki page.
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2003-06-06 15:13:12 |
| Jay |
I got dropped from the network (0157)
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2003-06-06 15:13:37 |
| cdent |
fie, I searched for that and must have typoed (0158)
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2003-06-06 15:13:43 |
| Jay |
and then came back with a completely different IP (0159)
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2003-06-06 15:13:45 |
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like someone took a router out or something
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2003-06-06 15:13:56 |
| cdent |
I'll blog it later when I have more to say: I'm an essayist, not a linker usually :) (0160)
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2003-06-06 15:14:00 |
| eekim |
Yup. I think freenode kicked several of us off. (0161)
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2003-06-06 15:14:02 |
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Essayist is far superior to linkist.
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2003-06-06 15:14:10 |
| sociate |
anyone in the other two sessions? Networking Power or What Works ? (0162)
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2003-06-06 15:17:35 |
| cdent |
i stayed up through you guys falling off, so it's something not local to freenode (0163)
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2003-06-06 15:18:38 |
| eekim |
Could be ournetwork connection here. (0164)
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2003-06-06 15:20:24 |
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It's been pretty flaky all day.
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2003-06-06 15:20:31 |
| cdent |
goodness, Zwiki is weird to use for linking offsite compared to PurpleWiki (0165)
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2003-06-06 15:21:18 |
| sociate |
i may scoot to one of the other sessions (0166)
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2003-06-06 15:21:31 |
| eekim |
Let us know if they're interesting. (0167)
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2003-06-06 15:21:44 |
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Re: ZWiki -- yeah, I'm not crazy about the StructuredText.
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2003-06-06 15:21:57 |
| Jay |
yeah, I was thinking about going to the Networking Media one (0168)
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2003-06-06 15:22:05 |
| sociate |
where's the accelerator room, or whatever it's called? :) (0169)
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2003-06-06 15:22:08 |
| eekim |
But, kudos to the ZWiki folks for at least not inventing something new. (0170)
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2003-06-06 15:22:13 |
| Jay |
the engine room? (0171)
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2003-06-06 15:22:22 |
| eekim |
Assembler Room. It's next to the East Ballroom. (0172)
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2003-06-06 15:22:26 |
| sociate |
thanks. (0173)
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2003-06-06 15:22:33 |
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lotsa Lego blocks?
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2003-06-06 15:22:41 |
| eekim |
Not yet. I think that comes towards the end of the session. (0174)
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2003-06-06 15:22:53 |
| Jay |
hope it's not for assembly language (0175)
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2003-06-06 15:23:04 |
| eekim |
No Legos, but some big cardboard boxes. (0176)
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2003-06-06 15:23:10 |
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I don't think that would be so popular at this conference. :-)
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2003-06-06 15:23:32 |
| cdent |
http://collaboratory.planetwork.net/wiki/AugmentedSocialNetworks/#nid1IN (0177)
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2003-06-06 15:24:38 |
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that's the link for the pointer to the conversation above
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2003-06-06 15:24:46 |
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giant legos would be fun
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2003-06-06 15:24:59 |
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I'm going back to the dishes
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2003-06-06 15:25:02 |
| eekim |
Have fun. (0178)
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2003-06-06 15:25:34 |
| sociate |
moving to the other session made my PC drop my session; rats (0179)
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2003-06-06 15:33:31 |
| Sheri |
hey, just quickly checking in. i wanted to attend the conference but needed to stay in the pacific northwest for the weekend. reading jay's blog and very interested in the discussion. (0180)
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2003-06-06 15:34:40 |
| Jay |
hi Sheri, glad you got connected (0181)
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2003-06-06 15:35:04 |
| eekim |
Welcome, Sheri! (0182)
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2003-06-06 15:35:07 |
| Sheri |
thanks :) (0183)
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2003-06-06 15:35:19 |
| eekim |
Several of us are actually in sessions right now, so conversation has been a bit sporadic. (0184)
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2003-06-06 15:35:41 |
| Sheri |
i've been involved with the indymedia network since its inception in seattle and i am very interested in networks and on line communication tools. what we have is currently not adequate. and there's a huge gap between the techies and those who don't have the tech knowledge. so i am interested in what is learned in this space (conference, archives, irc, all of it). (0185)
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2003-06-06 15:36:14 |
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no problem. i have to leave soon, but wanted to just get on line. if any one else is blogging from other sessions, please pass those along. are they all links off the collaboration site?
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2003-06-06 15:36:47 |
| Jay |
I just posted more on my blog from the ASN session (0186)
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2003-06-06 15:39:24 |
| ovdavis |
eekim (or anyone who knows), i've installed (evil;-)) groxis, do you know how i can point it to the planetwork collaboratory? i tried creating a network neighborhood pointing to collaboratory.planetwork.net but doing this (in windows) asks for a login and password not satisfied by my planetwork account. hhmmmmm (0187)
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2003-06-06 15:46:43 |
| eekim |
Hey Sheri -- keep checking http://collaboratory.planetwork.net/ (0188)
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2003-06-06 15:47:13 |
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Blogs are syndicated in the sidebar.
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2003-06-06 15:47:19 |
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This stuff is all logged there also.
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2003-06-06 15:47:29 |
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Hi Owen!
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2003-06-06 15:47:47 |
| ovdavis |
hi eekim! (0189)
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2003-06-06 15:47:53 |
| eekim |
Let me find out for you -- give me a sec. (0190)
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2003-06-06 15:47:56 |
| ovdavis |
coolio (0191)
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2003-06-06 15:48:02 |
| Sheri |
eekim, thanks i found them....sad to hear about the disappointment with hawken's presentation. i thought it was supposed to be about activism and software. what does grokked have to do with activism. i couldn't quite get it from the site. (0192)
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2003-06-06 15:49:55 |
| sociate |
nothing at all, unfortunately (0193)
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2003-06-06 15:51:06 |
| mica|-| |
hey sheri! (0194)
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2003-06-06 15:51:37 |
| eekim |
Here's the scoop on Groxis. It's on a Windows shared filesystem. (0195)
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2003-06-06 15:51:40 |
| mica|-| |
its micah (0196)
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2003-06-06 15:51:59 |
| eekim |
Open up My Network Places, Shared Network, Microsoft Windows Network, planetwork (0197)
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2003-06-06 15:52:16 |
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I might have missed a few directories in between -- poke around until you find the planetwork folder.
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2003-06-06 15:52:36 |
| ovdavis |
so i found this: windows network/planetwork/cog/collaboratory and inside this are two folders: "planet work map" and "test" is this it? (0198)
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2003-06-06 15:55:31 |
| eekim |
Yup. It's planet work map. (0199)
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2003-06-06 15:55:50 |
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Open up that in the viewer.
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2003-06-06 15:55:58 |
| Sheri |
micah are you talking about indymedia tomorrow? (0200)
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2003-06-06 15:56:30 |
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micah, did you hear the panel this morning on online news networks that jeffp was on?
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2003-06-06 15:56:54 |
| mica|-| |
sheri, not specifically, but yes (0201)
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2003-06-06 15:57:03 |
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no, I was busy trying tofix the server andthen bike over here
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2003-06-06 15:57:15 |
| Sheri |
ahhhh. (0202)
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2003-06-06 15:57:37 |
| Jay |
did anyone go to the media presentation? (0203)
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2003-06-06 16:01:33 |
| mica|-| |
I wanted to... too busy :( (0204)
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2003-06-06 16:01:53 |
| ovdavis |
eekim, thanks, that worked (I think), though there wasn't a whole lot of info in that directory. will this directory eventually contain a map to data or the data itself? what can i expect? is there someplace else I should look for this info? (0205)
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2003-06-06 16:04:05 |
| Sheri |
hi mako, welcome to planetwork irc :) (0206)
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2003-06-06 16:05:55 |
| mako |
heh (0207)
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2003-06-06 16:06:00 |
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god to be here
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2003-06-06 16:06:04 |
| Sheri |
see you all later. look forward to reading more blogs and hearing how all the collaboration and networking goes. i'm off to low tide and a picnic watching the sun set over the olympics. (0208)
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2003-06-06 16:07:47 |
| Jay |
who is here but not in the ASN session, and how is it going where you are? (0209)
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2003-06-06 16:23:44 |
| mikel |
anyone in the geo talk? (0210)
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2003-06-06 16:31:35 |
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http://brainoff.com/geoblog/dymaxion.html
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2003-06-06 16:31:46 |
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anyone at asn? how's the second half?
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2003-06-06 16:36:35 |
| Jay |
its questions and answers at the ASN (0211)
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2003-06-06 16:37:00 |
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and the questions are all very good
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2003-06-06 16:37:04 |
| mikel |
i'm torn. but you've taken good notes :) (0212)
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2003-06-06 16:37:51 |
| Jay |
which talk are you in? (0213)
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2003-06-06 16:38:17 |
| mikel |
Immersive Earth - Global Collaboration & Geocommunication (0214)
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2003-06-06 16:39:16 |
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some cool powersof10 type earth & mars animation plus bucky fuller type ideas
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2003-06-06 16:40:02 |
| Jay |
oh man, we could use some animation like that here (0215)
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2003-06-06 16:40:33 |
| mikel |
heh (0216)
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2003-06-06 16:42:28 |
| Jay |
who else is blogging (0217)
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2003-06-06 16:51:58 |
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?
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2003-06-06 16:52:10 |
| mikel |
would be nice to see central repository for presentation files... (0218)
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2003-06-06 16:53:23 |
| Jay |
yeah, I was just asked if anyone BESIDES me was blogging! (0219)
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2003-06-06 16:54:18 |
| cdent |
Jay, I think people probably aren't fully geared up just yet. Don't despair: the stuff you've been doing has been very interesting for me. I fee like I've got a very distant but good seat. (0220)
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2003-06-06 16:55:56 |
| Jay |
ok, thanks (0221)
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2003-06-06 16:56:42 |
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my next post will be pretty long--lots of q & a here
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2003-06-06 16:56:56 |
| cdent |
excellent, I think with a topic like that it is going to be the Q&A that really raises the most important issues and questions (0222)
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2003-06-06 16:57:25 |
| Jay |
yeah, that is definitely how it is here in the room. the questions are the best part (0223)
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2003-06-06 16:57:50 |
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just posted on part 2 on the ASN
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2003-06-06 17:05:35 |
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catch you later
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2003-06-06 17:14:35 |
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don't know if I will blog Englebart, because I want to listen more than type
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2003-06-06 17:14:55 |
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but will be back online tomorrow if not again tonight
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2003-06-06 17:15:08 |
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anything happening in the main (center) room?
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2003-06-06 19:27:27 |
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I am in the East Room, where they are playing zydeco music
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2003-06-06 19:27:40 |
| mikel |
englebert is being miked up (0224)
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2003-06-06 19:28:38 |
| Jay |
got the video and audio feed here now (0225)
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2003-06-06 19:33:43 |
